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	<title>Comments on: Of rubies and tracks</title>
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	<description>Still powered by a contradiction in terms</description>
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		<title>By: Ronaldo</title>
		<link>http://log.reflectivesurface.com/2004/12/09/of-rubies-and-tracks/comment-page-1/#comment-343</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronaldo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry about taking so long to answer your comment. I was very busy in the past weeks, and let my list of unanswered e-mails grow too long.

Anyway, I can't quite compare Jotweb to Rails because I never used it, but I have some suggestions about the site. It was too hard to find things there. That's one of the things in which Ruby and Rails excel. Everything is easy to find. So, I'd start with that. Jotweb may actually be a great framework but people won't discover that unless they can try it easily.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about taking so long to answer your comment. I was very busy in the past weeks, and let my list of unanswered e-mails grow too long.</p>
<p>Anyway, I can&#8217;t quite compare Jotweb to Rails because I never used it, but I have some suggestions about the site. It was too hard to find things there. That&#8217;s one of the things in which Ruby and Rails excel. Everything is easy to find. So, I&#8217;d start with that. Jotweb may actually be a great framework but people won&#8217;t discover that unless they can try it easily.</p>
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		<title>By: Evelyn Mitchell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evelyn Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd like to hear your comments on Jotweb http://jotweb.tummy.com/

It uses Python for scripting, TAL for markup, cvs for version control, and memcached for caching.

I'd like to hear how it compares to RAILS.

Thanks! Evelyn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to hear your comments on Jotweb <a href="http://jotweb.tummy.com/" rel="nofollow">http://jotweb.tummy.com/</a></p>
<p>It uses Python for scripting, TAL for markup, cvs for version control, and memcached for caching.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to hear how it compares to RAILS.</p>
<p>Thanks! Evelyn</p>
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		<title>By: Demetrius Nunes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Demetrius Nunes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2004 01:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ronaldo, I saw David H.H. mentioning you on his blog and stopped by just to say that there is one more brazilian here using Ruby on Rails very seriously and intensely. I am actaully implementing my masters degree thesis with it. As for work, I have my own start-up company that develops great e-Learning web-based software using .NET.
I agree with you 100% on Ruby+Rails easy-of-use and productivity gains. I wonder if I'll ever do anything with ASP.NET ever again... ;-) Best regards from Rio de Janeiro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ronaldo, I saw David H.H. mentioning you on his blog and stopped by just to say that there is one more brazilian here using Ruby on Rails very seriously and intensely. I am actaully implementing my masters degree thesis with it. As for work, I have my own start-up company that develops great e-Learning web-based software using .NET.<br />
I agree with you 100% on Ruby+Rails easy-of-use and productivity gains. I wonder if I&#8217;ll ever do anything with ASP.NET ever again&#8230; <img src='http://log.reflectivesurface.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> Best regards from Rio de Janeiro.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronaldo</title>
		<link>http://log.reflectivesurface.com/2004/12/09/of-rubies-and-tracks/comment-page-1/#comment-340</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronaldo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2004 02:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm, first and foremost, a Smalltalk fan. I consider it the language that comes closer to perfection than any other. Seaside is a great framework, and its Ruby port, Borges, is also very nice. But I would still say that Rails is better because it's simpler and somewhat more mature than the others. Also, it's easier to run in environments where you have no or almost no control over the installed software.

I believe that both frameworks (Rails and Seaside) will slowly become mainstream in years to come, either by gaining language acceptance or by ports to other languages. Rails may have an advantage due to the image-based nature of Smalltalk, but the concepts in Seaside are more powerful so both are interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m, first and foremost, a Smalltalk fan. I consider it the language that comes closer to perfection than any other. Seaside is a great framework, and its Ruby port, Borges, is also very nice. But I would still say that Rails is better because it&#8217;s simpler and somewhat more mature than the others. Also, it&#8217;s easier to run in environments where you have no or almost no control over the installed software.</p>
<p>I believe that both frameworks (Rails and Seaside) will slowly become mainstream in years to come, either by gaining language acceptance or by ports to other languages. Rails may have an advantage due to the image-based nature of Smalltalk, but the concepts in Seaside are more powerful so both are interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus Denker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus Denker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2004 21:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should have a look at Seaside: 

  http://www.beta4.com/seaside2/
  http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~scg/Archive/Papers/Duca04eSeaside.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should have a look at Seaside: </p>
<p>  <a href="http://www.beta4.com/seaside2/" rel="nofollow">http://www.beta4.com/seaside2/</a><br />
  <a href="http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~scg/Archive/Papers/Duca04eSeaside.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~scg/Archive/Papers/Duca04eSeaside.pdf</a></p>
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